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Overall:- It still gets the job done for most shoes. My go to shoes vans y So both headphones have new pads and all down in 15 minutes. Instrument separation is still better on HD600. vans y with a storages case USB charging adapter and multiple earbuds silicon tips to ensure the right fitment for everyone. vans y If I move the neck loop up to just under my ear then the volume is acceptable but its not practical to wear the neck loop that way. With ANC off, no audio, I hear a hiss. They fit my kids pretty well. vans y A little Loctite fixed that problem. I’ll be updating my review again to less positive if the other 2 stop working.