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Id say they are brittle and dont much like any kind of twisting when removing them from a shirt. These are without a doubt the best sounding headphones I’ve had the pleasure of using. vans sk8 hi fringe See the included photo to understand the orientation of the IEM with the wire. Did debate returning it. vans sk8 hi fringe My toes are scrunched in the front, and the bendy sole is not enough support. vans sk8 hi fringe The other bar was made at 30. Nothing terrible, but if I had not wrapped everything our items would have been wet. Well see about longevity but Im happy so far. vans sk8 hi fringe This was return because it hurts my ear. Works best with noises like a washing machine,vacuum or a kettle.